Son of Web Pages That Suck: Learn Good Design by Looking at Bad Design

by Vincent Flanders

Book Overview

Inspired by the award-winning Web site Web Pages That Suck, this text takes a humorous approach to teaching Web design techniques by critiquing bad sites and then applying common sense and practical,... This description may be from another edition of this product.

• Format: Paperback
• Language: English
• ISBN: 0782140203
• ISBN13: 9780782140200
• Release Date: April 2002
• Publisher: Sybex Inc
• Length: 320 Pages
• Weight: 2.10 lbs.
• Dimensions: 9.8" x 0.8" x 7.8"

Customer Reviews

A webmasters job is never complete

Ok all I can say is wow. This man uses insults (accurately) to get the job done. I found myself wanting to redo things on my site and other sites I design just so he wouldn't find it and use it as a bad example. Good God. He is RIGHT ON on a lot of that stuff. I disagreed him with him when it came to Flash. He thinks Flash is unnecessary, which it is in certain circumstances... but... he failed to mention adult sites which really use the art of visualization for the ultimate sale, which is what he discusses - that websites should be about bringing in money. Other than that and his not-so-secret hate for splash pages (although again, he failed to mention that some sites actually REQUIRE them by law)... I agreed with him on everything else in the book. He gets into the Do's and Don'ts and really blasts the sites that use tacky animated Gifs on clashing backgrounds, unclean and unfocused sites, sites that don't use alt tags on images, and it really covers a whole lot of things that are just plain wrong. Way wrong. He even got into a subject about never including text that says 'Click Here' and at first I scratched by head and thought - but why not?? And he showed some examples of it done right, and examples of how bad and tacky it can look when it is used wrong. I immediately got inspired and got rid of all of my 'Click here' text and sure enough, the results looked much more professional. I have at least 20 high-maintenance business sites I constantly work on, and that being said - I am constantly feeling pretty positive about the work that I do. He doesn't care how good you think you are. He will be brutal. And it's about time someone steps forward to say it. 'A webmasters job is never complete' is an accurate statement. He doesn't just give negative criticism... he offers good advice and solutions that are doable and just require effort and a sense of direction. The bottom line: If you get aggravated with what he says, you can close the book and reopen it when you're ready for brutal honesty.

Learn what not to do when designing web pages

Book - Son of Web Pages That Suck: Learn Good Design by Looking at Bad Design By Vincent Flanders with Dean PetersPublisher - SybexList [...]>ISBN: 0-7821-4020-3<br>Rating - 5 out 5 <p>Son of Web Pages That Suck is the follow up to the very successful book Web Pages That Suck by Vincent Flanders. The book consists of 279 pages, broken down into 14 chapters. The book also comes with a CD containing links to the websites listed throughout the book. Son of Web Pages That Suck is my first book on web design and will probably be the only one in my library for quite some time (until Daughter of Web Pages That Suck comes out). As the title suggests, Son of Web Pages That Suck teaches good web design by having the reader look at examples of bad web design. Throughout the book, Flanders explains why a web page does or does not suck. <p>The book's best quality lies in the very humorous and understandable way it's written. This is one computer book that isn't going to put you to sleep or bore you to death. One of the key points the author stresses throughout the book is "web design is not about art, it's about making money." Each chapter begins with a short introduction explaining what's going to be covered in the preceding chapter and ends with a summary covering the key points discussed in that chapter. One of the not-so obvious things Flanders covers is that you can make a web page that sucks without using tons of flashy graphics or other crazy design elements. Thankfully, he also discusses how to avoid making these same mistakes. Some of the more obvious web design topics Flanders covers include things like appropriate page and image size, how to stay on the right side of copyright law, professionalism, and why things like splash pages and "Welcome to my page" lines are bad. Another important point Flanders discusses is that while a certain theme or design might make one web page suck, it may make another rock-- depending on the target audience .If you've ever visited a Flash intensive website on a dial up connection, you'll appreciate Flanders chapter "Jumpin' Jack Flash." <p>I could continue to talk about all the great topics Flanders covers in his book Son of Web Pages That Suck, but that would take far too much space for a book review. I highly recommend that you go and buy the book and read it for yourself. I give Son of Web Pages That Suck a highly deserved 5 out of 5 rating.

A solid update of the original book

Having thoroughly enjoyed the original "Web Pages That Suck", I was quick to buy this sequel. If you haven't read either book yet, just buy the "Son of" sequel, because it is mostly a needed update of the original. It covers the same concepts in the same hilarious style, but is more current with regard to the latest bad design techniques and the current browsers, plug-ins and so forth that are now in use. A very entertaining book, even if you never intend to author a web page.

Learn the right way by seeing the wrong way!

SON OF WEB PAGES THAT SUCKAUTHOR: Vincent Flanders with Dean Peters and a Cast of HundredsPUBLISHER: SybexREVIEWED BY: Barbara RhoadesBOOK REVIEW: Sometimes looking at something bad can help you see what a web page should look like. You immediately begin to say, ?I would NEVER do that on a web site?. This begins the creative thought process that, in turn, helps you design a web site everyone will be able to navigate and enjoy.The first thing you should do after purchasing Son of Web Pages That Suck? is check out the CD that is included. It contains over a dozen programs that can help the web designer to create better pages. A few of the programs that you might want to try are Snag It (captures anything you see on the Windows Desktop), Top Style Pro (checks for cross-browser problems as you work), Color Schemer (helps create color themes) and Screen Ruler (a virtual ruler that you can drag around the screen). These are trial programs and can be purchased for permanent use.There is a section called ?Two Minute Offense?. This is an exercise designed to getting you thinking in two minutes of all the problems that show on the web page displayed in that section. There are other ?side bars? to help you learn also such as Sucks Not and Sucks a Lot. Both titles are self-explanatory. Don?t forget to check out the ?What Did You Learn? at the end of each chapter. This section will review what went on in the chapter and gives you a chance to be sure you saw everything in that chapter.Remember that wonderful font you found and always wanted to use? Probably on a web page is not the place for it. And be careful of color. Too much color in the same line of text can be a problem. These are only a few of the problems that ?Son of Web Pages That Suck? points out. It is a book you will be hard pressed to not wear it out as its pages contain so much information you will want to read it many times.

Funny and informative

Vincent Flanders' new "Son of Web Pages That Suck" is the sequel to his best-selling book "Web Pages That Suck." WPTS arose from the site he founded by the same name in 1996, WebPagesThatSuck.com. It seems that WYSIWYG editors have just made it easier for designers to create bad web sites faster, so Flanders felt a second book was needed. Flanders takes a different approach to teaching usability than the likes of Nielsen and Norman. Through over the top humor and outrageous examples of bad web design he manages to teach good design while keeping us entertained. Flanders uses humor as a teaching aid because he's found that that people tend to learn better when they are entertained.You'll find yourself laughing as you read this book. The book is peppered with full-color pictures of Flanders and friends in various getups: a devil, an angel, a mechanic, a flasher, and even in the tub ("Splish Splash Pages" chapter). It's all in good fun, as Flanders doesn't take himself too seriously. He makes his points without condescension. He even uses Johnny Cochran-like sayings to illustrate his points:"If the Bits Don't Flow, People Will Go.""The Top's Gotta Pop or They're Not Gonna Stop."The author is a marketing showman, using carnival-like PR:TREMBLE at the horror that is Mystery Meat NavigationRUN SCREAMING from splishy splashy Flashy pages...The book is a hybrid design and usability book aimed at beginning to intermediate designers. The book teaches good design practices through bad mistakes with scathing commentary on numerous really bad web sites. Through his web site's "Daily Sucker" and thousands of email suggestions Flanders has plenty of material to choose from.The actual advice is common sense stuff that advanced users will already know like keeping text contrast high and file sizes low. However, even after years of preaching the gospel, usability experts are finding web designers repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Flanders shows what not to do, and offers suggestions on how to do it right.Web design is about working within limitations. Unless you have what Flanders calls "heroin content," make your pages fast loading, easy to navigate, easy to read, and minimize extraneous features. He gives useful pointers throughout the book for graphics optimizers, validators, browser simulators, and includes a CD chock full of useful utilities to shrink and shape up your pages.Flanders likes to say, somewhat tongue in cheek, that this book is for everybody. It is not quite in that category, but it will have a broader appeal than most web design books with its splashy graphics, non-technical approach, and Flanders' trademark humor. Some college professors have even adopted his book for their Web design courses because it doesn't put their students to sleep. Highly recommended.